All of this talk about ambitions and empire building discomfited Ves.
Learning about the personal ambitions of the high-and-mighty tier 1 galactic citizens caused him to no longer look up to them as much as before.
That mental shift jarred Ves quite a lot, so much so that Jovy pulled back and began to divert to less weighty secrets.
Ves allowed Jovy to brief him on matters such as secret doomsday bases, multiple successful attempts at launching generation ships to the other dwarf galaxies of Messier 87, bioengineering alien bodies that were secretly controlled by human intelligences, assassinating the leaders of relatively small but disproportionately disruptive organizations, the ongoing development of multiple new Masterwork Installations capable of shaping the battlefield in unprecedented new ways and more.
While these secrets sounded interesting enough when presented in isolation, they all seemed to blur in the background as far as the current recipient was concerned.